David Heims on Christian Politicians

Here’s some thought-provoking stuff from David Heims. Love to know your thoughts…

"I doubt the religious right is “cracking up,” as David Kirkpatrick suggests in a recent New York Times article (“The Evangelical Crackup,” Oct. 28).
At least it would take the results of a few election cycles to
demonstrate it. But, like Kirkpatrick, I have been hearing some
significant voices on the right that are disillusioned about political



example, at a Yale Divinity School conference on religion and politics
in October, David Kuo, former aide in the Bush White House, talked
about the need for Christians to “fast from politics” for a few years.
Conservative Christians helped Republicans get control of Congress and
the White House, he said, but they didn’t accomplish that much for the
country and, with their focus on partisan politics, they ended up
diluting or distorting their own spiritual life.

Also speaking was Gregory Boyd, a dynamic pastor in Minnesota, who
doubts that anything good comes from aligning oneself with Caesar (his
words to describe Christians engaging in politics). He spoke eloquently
about how the church is called to embody Christ’s self-sacrificing love
in the world, not to take up the levers of power.

Skepticism about politics is always healthy. But it strikes me that
Kuo’s and Boyd’s comments reflect a broad, unhelpful tendency in
American Christianity to oscillate between two poles: either a fervent
engagement in politics for the sake of the gospel and the world, or an
equally fervent detachment for the sake of the purity of the gospel and
the health of the church. Isn’t there something between the two poles?

It might help the discussion of religion and politics if we though
not about the two poles of political engagement and detachment but
about politics as a particular kind of vocation to which Christians are
called in different ways depending on their gifts and their position in
the church and society.

I’d be happy to stipulate, with Boyd, that the church as church is
not called to be Caesar or even Caesar’s adviser. We don’t want
bishops, pastors or church councils issuing statements on tax laws or
free trade agreements or on which version of the SCHIP bill should be
passed. Churches and church leaders have their particular vocation of
proclamation, worship, prayer and sacramental ministry. Except in
emergency situations, the church—here I mean the church as an official
body—leaves the details of what public justice means to those who are
called to the work of politics.

Meanwhile, however, individual Christians have their particular
vocations. In a democracy, all people have the vocation of citizen and
so are in some degree called to the work of politics. Beyond that, a
certain number of individual Christians are called to a more specific
vocation: to study, analyze or participate in the day-to-day workings
of politics. They make arguments and pay attention to data. They look
for affinities between the gospel and political philosophies and
programs. They listen to what constituents say and arguments other
people make. Their work is fallible, limited, pervaded by sin, always
subject to revision—but so are lots of vocations.

Unless one takes a truly separatist view of the Christian life and
wants to preclude anybody with political influence from being a member
of the church, then one has to grant that some Christians have the
specific vocation of working out the details of seeking justice in
political life. This is not the only task of the Christian life, nor is
it the primary task of the church. But it is a genuine vocation for
Christians, one just as worthy as farming or schoolteaching. If we are
clear about the distinct vocations to which Christians are called,
there is no reason for Christians to fast from politics or apologize
for their involvement in it."



Dr. Tim Spivey is Lead Planter of New Vintage Church in San Diego, California. He is the author of numerous articles and one book, "Jesus: The Powerful Servant." A sought after speaker for events, Tim also serves as Adjunct Professor of Religion at Pepperdine University. Tim serves as a church consultant, and his writings are featured on ChurchLeaders.com, Church Executive magazine, Faith Village, Sermon Central, and Giving Rocket.

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6 thoughts on “David Heims on Christian Politicians

  1. My brother Tim
    I appreciate your political comments because (in my opinion) far too many churches flaunt their politics in a more social than spiritual context. In the last year I have interviewed more than 200 men and women in many different churches trying to get a handle on why the Christian world generally ignores Jesus’ prayer for our oneness at John 17. The conclusion I have reached is simple, it’s all about the politics. Satan perfected this divisive tactic in the social world and brought it into the infant church and now many churches use the same rhetoric as political parties and politicians. The church, as a whole, has easily the adopted the rhetoric of politics and so the conflict continues.
    I seriously doubt God really cares who sits in the White House because He will carry out His sovereign will no matter what.
    As for me, I’ve given up being a political activist and listening to the endless talk show chatter of those who can do nothing but criticize, demean and divide.
    My premise is this – WHATEVER DIVIDES, DECEIVES OR DESTROYS isn’t from Jesus Christ the one and only Lord.
    God bless you my brother. I love you.

  2. My faith is not defined by Stone and Lipscomb. I think they were not only wrong but very wrong about civic activity.
    My thoughts, too many experts give too much advice. The truth is I could not care any less about what Kuo or Boyd have to say. They quit preaching and went to meddling. Their words seem suspicious. If I actually cared enough, I would look into their motives. They give me the creeps.
    I’m voting. I’m voting the way I think God would have me vote.

  3. Having recently studied the political views of Alexander Campbell, Barton Stone, and David Lipscomb, I am increasingly convinced with Boyd that our allegiance to the kingdom of God should keep us from using powerful means to accomplish God’s mission in the world.
    Stone and Lipscomb were even against voting at all and Campbell held similar views on issues concerning a Christian’s involvement in politicals, voting, and war.
    The issues are complex. And either/or is generally a bad stance in most arenas, but unfortunately we are only hearing one extreme in our conversations in the Christian arena. These important voices from our movement have been silenced and I had no idea that these views were held in our past.
    Where are the prophetic voices like Lee Camp today who are reminding us such a past? Perhaps our churches need more conversations about our involvement in politics. These are important matters that impact everyone in our churches.

  4. That’s funny that you put this post up about politics. I used to be a diehard republican. I used to be a fanatic about voting and the GOP b/c that’s how I was raised. I remember my parents coming home from a Bush/Quayle ’88 campaign fundraiser. I remember how depressed my parents were in ’92 when Clinton was first elected. All that to say my parents were (still are) strong Christians and heavy into politics.
    But I find myself not caring one way or the other anymore. I don’t want to be Republican or Democrat, and as far as I’m concerned, I don’t want to vote this next year b/c I don’t think I’ll be an informed voter. I’m tired of choosing “the lesser.”
    I don’t even truly believe my vote makes a difference.